FRO (2025 - Q2)

Release Date: Aug 29, 2025

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Surprises

Adjusted Profit Increase

$80.4 million adjusted profit in Q2 2025

Adjusted profit increased by $40 million compared with the previous quarter, primarily due to higher TCE earnings.

Higher TCE Earnings

$283 million TCE earnings in Q2 2025

TCE earnings rose from $241 million in Q1 to $283 million in Q2, reflecting improved rates despite being below expectations.

Fleet Shrinkage Expected

0.5% reduction in active trading fleet in 2025

The tanker fleet is expected to shrink by about 0.5% due to aging vessels and sanctions, leading to negative fleet growth.

Record Aged and Sanctioned Fleet

Record number of vessels over 20 years old and sanctioned vessels

The fleet has a record amount of vessels above 20 years and a significant portion sanctioned, limiting effective fleet growth.

Strong Cash Generation Potential

$648 million annual cash generation potential at current TCE rates

Frontline's cash generation potential is substantial, with $648 million or $2.91 per share annually based on current fleet and rates.

Shift in Crude Flows

Increased U.S. Gulf VLCC exports to Asia

Recent significant increase in U.S. Gulf fixtures for September indicates a shift of Atlantic Basin oil eastbound, improving freight demand.

Impact Quotes

Trade policy is affecting crude sourcing for key demand regions, creating a compliant bull market with increased utilization and freight growth.

We see a structural market with limited fleet growth, longer trade lanes, and more compliant oil, which supports tanker demand and rates.

The artificial $50,000 per day ceiling on VLCC rates is driven by short-term charterers, but we expect to push through and establish a higher floor.

Frontline has a solid balance sheet with $844 million liquidity and no meaningful debt maturities until 2030, ensuring financial strength.

Global oil demand growth has surpassed sanctioned supply, benefiting the compliant fleet where Frontline operates.

We are seeing increased U.S. Gulf exports to Asia, pushing freight demand and longer haul trades, which is positive for tanker utilization.

Notable Topics Discussed

  • Management highlighted how global conflict and trade policies are creating a volatile environment for the tanker industry, with increased parallel market activity stealing margins from compliant fleets.
  • The call emphasized that recent trade policy shifts, especially in crude sourcing, are benefiting compliant fleets due to increased demand for sanctioned oil.
  • Lars Barstad pointed out that the evolving sanctions and trade restrictions are leading to a more 'compliant bull market,' with healthier utilization of compliant tanker fleets.
  • The company observes that sanctions and policy reversals, such as OPEC's production cut reversals, are influencing export volumes and trade lanes, impacting fleet utilization and rates.
  • Management indicated that the current environment favors a limited newbuilding activity and a muted fleet growth, which could support higher rates long-term.
  • The call detailed how increased compliance and sanctions are extending trade lanes, with more oil moving from Latin America and the U.S. to Asia, which is longer than traditional routes.
  • Management explained that the price dynamics now favor Latin American and U.S. oil going east, as freight costs and regional prices shift, supporting longer haul trades.
  • Lars Barstad noted that the market is experiencing a structural change with longer trade routes, which could increase freight demand by about 6% even before adjusting for ton-miles.
  • The company highlighted that the limited fleet growth and aging vessels are constraining supply, making the longer trade lanes more critical for market balance.
  • The call suggested that the current freight demand increase, combined with slow fleet growth, is a positive sign for future tanker rates.
  • Management pointed out that the tanker fleet has a record number of vessels over 20 years of age, which could impact operational efficiency and safety.
  • The fleet is also characterized by a high percentage of sanctioned vessels, which are either aging or being phased out, reducing available capacity.
  • The limited order book, with vessels not expected before 2028, indicates a market constrained by supply-side factors, potentially supporting higher rates.
  • The call emphasized that the tanker market is 'sold out' for 2027, with very few new vessels entering the market, especially in the context of slow yard activity.
  • This aging and sanctioned vessel profile is seen as a key factor underpinning the current and future market tightness.
  • Management discussed recent short-term rate movements, noting a significant rally in spot rates that has been difficult to sustain.
  • The call explained that market participants, especially short-term traders, are influencing rates by their strategies, including inventory building and profit-taking.
  • Lars Barstad expressed optimism that the artificial ceiling around $50,000 per day for VLCCs could be broken as market support stabilizes.
  • The company observed that recent market activity suggests a potential shift to higher floors in spot rates, driven by increased demand for compliant tankers.
  • Management highlighted that the market's 'fun and games' with rate pushing could lead to a more sustainable upward trend.
  • The call detailed how OPEC's voluntary production cut reversals are expected to increase exports from the Middle East, supporting tanker demand.
  • Management noted that Middle East oil consumption remains high during summer, but this is expected to normalize, affecting seasonal demand.
  • Lars Barstad explained that increased Middle East exports, combined with higher U.S. and Latin American shipments, are shaping the long-haul trade patterns.
  • The company highlighted that the return of Middle East oil to the market could influence freight rates by increasing the availability of long-haul cargoes.
  • Management sees the upcoming winter as a period where these supply dynamics will significantly impact tanker utilization and rates.
  • The call emphasized that recent shifts in oil trade flows, especially U.S. Gulf exports to Asia, are driven by regional price dynamics and freight costs.
  • Management explained that U.S. barrels are now cheaper to ship eastward than from the Middle East, encouraging more long-haul exports.
  • Lars Barstad highlighted that these structural changes could increase freight demand by 6% or more, even before considering ton-miles.
  • The company pointed out that the tanker market is experiencing a 'sold out' situation for 2027, with very few new vessels entering the market.
  • This shift supports a more favorable environment for tanker rates due to longer trade routes and limited fleet growth.
  • Management noted that the tanker order book is very limited, with most new vessels not expected before 2028, constraining supply growth.
  • The call explained that the slow activity in shipyards and the high waiting times for new vessels reinforce the market tightness.
  • Lars Barstad pointed out that the fleet is experiencing negative growth of about 0.5% in 2025, which is unusual and supportive of higher rates.
  • The company highlighted that the aging fleet and sanctions are reducing the number of available vessels, further tightening the market.
  • This structural scarcity of new vessels is seen as a key factor supporting the current and future rate environment.
  • The call discussed how sanctions have led to a significant portion of the fleet being either sanctioned or aging, reducing effective supply.
  • Management highlighted that vessels over 20 years old are at record levels, which could impact operational reliability and safety.
  • The limited fleet renewal due to slow yard activity and high vessel age is expected to sustain market tightness.
  • Lars Barstad emphasized that the aging fleet and sanctions are creating a 'compliant bull market' environment.
  • The company sees these factors as critical in maintaining high freight rates and limited vessel availability.
  • Management expressed confidence that the current market environment, supported by structural trade changes, will continue to favor higher rates.
  • The call highlighted the potential for increased exports from the Middle East and the U.S. as seasonal demand picks up in winter.
  • Lars Barstad pointed out that the limited fleet growth and aging vessels create a favorable supply-demand balance.
  • The company sees upside potential in the current market, especially if spot rates sustain or improve from recent levels.
  • Management remains optimistic about the long-term outlook driven by structural trade and sanctions dynamics.

Key Insights:

  • Adjusted profit increased by $40 million compared to Q1 2025, driven by higher TCE earnings rising from $241 million to $283 million.
  • Fleet average cash breakeven rate estimated at $25,900/day including dry dock costs; excluding dry dock costs, $24,600/day.
  • Fleet consists of 41 VLCCs, 21 Suezmax, and 18 LR2 tankers, all ECO vessels with 55% scrubber-fitted, average age 7 years.
  • Frontline holds strong liquidity with $844 million in cash and equivalents and no significant debt maturities until 2030.
  • Frontline reported a profit of $77.5 million or $0.35 per share in Q2 2025, with adjusted profit of $80.4 million or $0.36 per share.
  • Operating expenses (OpEx) including dry dock were $8,700/day for VLCCs, $8,900/day for Suezmax, and $7,600/day for LR2 tankers.
  • TCE rates for Q2 2025 were $43,100/day for VLCCs, $38,900/day for Suezmax, and $29,300/day for LR2/Aframax, up from Q1 but below expectations.
  • For Q3 2025, 82% of VLCC days are booked at $38,700/day, 76% of Suezmax days at $37,200/day, and 73% of LR2/Aframax days at $36,600/day.
  • Frontline anticipates continued strong cash generation potential with current TCE rates, with a 30% spot market increase potentially boosting cash generation by 64%.
  • Frontline expects a 3 million barrels per day year-on-year global oil supply growth in Q4 2025, translating to about 2 million barrels per day increased exports.
  • Market conditions suggest a potential contango in oil prices this winter, which could increase tanker utilization and inventory building.
  • OPEC voluntary production cut reversals are expected to increase Middle East exports approaching winter.
  • The tanker fleet is expected to shrink by 0.5% in 2025 due to aging and sanctions, limiting supply growth.
  • Fleet average OpEx excluding dry dock was $8,100/day, reflecting operational efficiency.
  • Frontline is capitalizing on longer trade lanes and increased utilization of compliant tankers due to shifting crude sourcing.
  • Frontline operates a fully ECO fleet with 55% scrubber-fitted vessels, emphasizing environmental compliance.
  • Frontline's modern, spot-exposed fleet is well placed to capture upside in a tightening compliant tanker market.
  • The company has no newbuilding commitments and a limited order book, with tanker market effectively sold out for 2027 deliveries.
  • The company is positioned to benefit from increased U.S. Gulf exports to Asia and Latin American production growth.
  • Barstad discussed the artificial $50,000/day ceiling on VLCC rates influenced by short-term charterers, expecting this floor to rise.
  • Barstad emphasized the growing advantage for compliant tanker fleets as global oil demand outpaces sanctioned supply.
  • CEO Lars Barstad highlighted the impact of global conflict and trade policies on tanker market dynamics.
  • He noted a potential 'compliant bull market' driven by trade policy shifts and increased utilization of compliant vessels.
  • Management highlighted the strategic importance of shifting crude flows from Atlantic Basin to Asia, improving freight demand.
  • Management sees a structural market with limited fleet growth and increasing demand for longer haul compliant oil trades.
  • The company is optimistic about breaking through current rate ceilings and establishing higher sustainable earnings floors.
  • Analyst Omar Nokta asked about the impact of increased U.S. VLCC exports to Asia and the effect of OPEC production cuts on winter market dynamics.
  • Barstad discussed the possibility of a contango in oil prices this winter, which could increase tanker utilization and inventory building.
  • Barstad explained the presence of an artificial ceiling on VLCC rates due to short-term charterers locking in profits, but sees signs of a rising floor.
  • He attributed recent VLCC spot rate gains to the replacement of Russian and Iranian oil with compliant sources, boosting demand for compliant tankers.
  • No further questions were asked, indicating either market clarity or timing of the call.
  • The management is cautiously optimistic about market support levels and expects improved freight rates as charters secure vessels.
  • Global oil demand growth has surpassed what sanctioned oil supply can satisfy, benefiting compliant tanker operators.
  • Refinery margins have been steadily improving since November 2024, supporting crude demand and product arbitrage.
  • Sanctioned oil production and exports appear to be tapering off, while compliant crude imports by China and India show positive trends.
  • The tanker fleet has a record number of vessels over 20 years old and a significant portion sanctioned, limiting effective fleet growth.
  • The tanker market is experiencing negative fleet growth due to limited new orders and aging vessels.
  • Trade policies and sanctions enforcement are influencing crude sourcing, with India and China adjusting feedstock exposure.
  • U.S. Gulf exports are increasing, with September fixtures rising, indicating stronger eastbound crude flows.
  • A 30% increase in spot market rates could boost cash generation by approximately 64%.
  • Frontline's cash generation potential at current TCE rates is $648 million or $2.91 per share annually.
  • Inventory building in China and low OECD inventories could influence tanker demand in the coming months.
  • The company benefits from a strong balance sheet with no meaningful debt maturities until 2030, providing financial flexibility.
  • The company is navigating a complex market with a mix of short-term volatility and long-term structural growth drivers.
  • The tanker market dynamics are influenced by geopolitical factors, including sanctions and trade policy shifts.
Complete Transcript:
FRO:2025 - Q2
Operator:
Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Second Quarter 2025 Frontline plc Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Lars Barstad, CEO. Please go ahead. Lars H.
Lars H. Barstad:
Thank you, Nicolas. Dear all, thank you for dialing into Frontline's quarterly earnings call. Shipping and tankers from our vantage point is still in the eye of the storm in relation to global conflict and trade policies. We have started to grow numb in respect of our industry's ability to regulate the ever-increasing parallel tanker market, stealing margins from the law-abiding citizens of the tanker trade. But now we are hopefully seeing the contours of change. one being trade policy reflected in nation's behavior on crude sourcing and the simple fact that global oil demand growth has surpassed what sanctioned molecules can satisfy, meaning incremental oil demand and supply for that sake, its growth seems to benefit the compliant fleet being the market Frontline operates in. So before I give the word to Inger, I'll run through our TCE numbers on Slide 3 in the deck. In the second quarter of 2025, Frontline achieved $43,100 per day on our VLCC fleet, $38,900 per day on our Suezmax fleet and $29,300 per day on our LR2/Aframax fleet. This is up from the first quarter of the year, but admittedly somewhat short of expectations. So far in the third quarter of '25, 82% of our VLCC days are booked at $38,700 per day, 76% of our Suezmax days are booked at $37,200 per day and 73% of our LR2/Aframax days at $36,600 per day. And again, just to remind you, all these numbers are on a load-to-discharge basis with the implication of the ballast days at the end of the quarter this incurs. However, we have fixed very far into Q3 at this point in time. So there's not that much that can move the needle coming in from here. And I'll now let Inger take you through the financial highlights.
Inger Marie Klemp:
Thanks, Lars, and good morning and good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Let's then turn to Slide 4, profit statement and look at some highlights. We report profit of $77.5 million or $0.35 per share and adjusted profit of $80.4 million or $0.36 per share in the second quarter of '25. The adjusted profit in the second quarter increased by $40 million compared with the previous quarter, and that was primarily due to an increase in our TCE earnings from $241 million in the previous quarter to $283 million in the second quarter as a result of higher TCE rates, partially offset by fluctuations in other income and expenses. Let's then turn to balance sheet at Slide 5. The balance sheet movements this quarter are related to ordinary items. Frontline has a solid balance sheet and strong liquidity of $844 million in cash and cash equivalents, including undrawn amounts of revolver capacity, marketable securities and minimum cash requirements bank as of the end of June 30, 2025. We have no meaningful debt maturities until 2030 and no newbuilding commitments. Let's then look at Slide 6, fleet position and cash breakeven rates and OpEx. Our fleet consists of 41 VLCCs, 21 Suezmax tankers and 18 LR2 tankers. It has an average age of 7 years and consists of 100% ECO vessels, whereof 55% are scrubber-fitted. We estimate average cash breakeven rate for the next 12 months of approximately $28,700 per day for VLCCs, $22,900 per day for Suezmax tankers and $22,900 per day for LR2 tankers, with a fleet average estimate of about $25,900 per day. This includes dry dock costs for 12 VLCCs and 8 LR2 tankers. The fleet average estimate, excluding dry dock cost is about $24,600 or $1,300 per day less. We recorded OpEx expenses including dry dock in the second quarter of $8,700 per day for VLCCs, $8,900 per day for Suezmax tankers and $7,600 per day for LR2 tankers. This includes dry dock of one VLCC and one Suezmax tanker. And the Q2 '25 fleet average OpEx, excluding dry dock, was $8,100 per day. Then let us turn to Slide 7 and look at cash generation. Frontline has a substantial cash generation potential with 30,000 earnings days annually. As you can see from the graph on the left-hand side of the slide, the cash generation potential basis current fleet and TCE rates for TD TC for VLCCs, TD20 for Suezmax tankers and the average of TD25 and TC1 for Aframax and LR2 tankers from the Baltic Exchange as of August 28 '25 is $648 million or $2.91 per share. And further, a 30% increase from current spot market will increase the potential cash generation with about 64%. With this, I leave the word to Lars, again.
Lars H. Barstad:
Thank you very much, Inger. And let's turn to Slide 8 and look at the current market themes. So what's going on out there? The compliant tanker fleet sees improved utilization, and this is as the compliant oil export is growing and some of the trade lanes are stretching or lengthening. India and China are balancing their feedstock exposure as they're negotiating U.S. trade policies, and we've also seen increased pressure by both U.S. and EU on sanctions. We also have OPEC voluntary production cut reversals. They have yet to materially affect export volumes. And just to remind you, in the Middle East, about 20% of electricity generation comes from burning oil. So Middle East will still kind of consume about 800,000 to 900,000 barrels per day more during the hot summer months. We do expect this to stop over the next weeks. And we also have quite exciting projections for Q4 global oil supply growth, which is supposed or at least according to EIA, give us a 3 million barrel per day year-on-year growth. If you translate that into exports, probably going to be close to 2 million barrels per day of increased exports. We are back to solid U.S. exports again after having a soft development as ever since January. And we look in August, at least looking at tracking, to reach 3.9 million barrels per day coming out of the U.S. Gulf. And as I'm going to come back to later, we see more and more of this oil pointing towards Asia. We've also had Brazil and Guyana production performing very, very well and likewise on their export side. The improved -- we also are in an environment here with improving refinery margins that -- which basically supports kind of refineries' crude demand and the product arbs. EIA again expect us to reach 105.4 million barrels of consumption in December globally. And we need to keep in mind this is coming from 101.5 million barrels in January. So let's go to Slide 9 and dig a little bit into the policy and how it -- the policies and how it affects behavior. So the oil discount that countries are achieving by importing sanctioned oil versus the trade balance and then in particular, towards U.S. is an important measure for nations not embracing the current sanctions regime. To put some numbers, and this is not exact science, but just taking it off what's being reported around there, India are benefiting around $2.7 billion from -- as a discount to benchmark oil prices by importing large amounts of Russian feedstock. But there bilateral trade is tenfold of that or even more. So about $86 billion is their trade worth with U.S. alone. It's also expected that if the U.S. tariff pressure continues on India as it is right now, they stand to lose about $20 billion of trade to the U.S. So this motivates and although not officially, but it does motivate them to change their tactics. We have, with this seen sanctioned barrels or we have seen sanctioned barrels increase their market share in key growth regions over the years, and this accelerated after 2022 and Russia's invasion of Ukraine. But now we're in a situation where OPEC8 voluntary production cut reversals and the supply growth, especially in Latin America, has given the market headroom to choose compliant sources of oil without affecting oil prices materially. And as global demand continues to grow, we seem to have found the limit on production and export growth from the sanctioned nations. If you look at the 2 charts on the below on the slide and look at these kind of 3 key sanctioned nations production, it seems to be tapering off. And also, if you look at their exports, it's tapering off even faster. There is a fact that when these countries lose kind of knowledge and parts from the rest of the world in order to maintain their production levels, they tend to also lose productivity. If you look at the chart on the top right-hand side, year-on-year, China and India's compliance crude imports, we see a very positive development. Whether this is sustainable is obviously difficult to say, but we are at least moving in the right direction. Let's dig a little bit further into the flows on Slide 10. So on the top left-hand side here, we have year-on-year change in global crude production and also in global exports. Exports is the part that concerns tankers. We've seen quite steep year-on-year changes to the positive in Q2 and also looks to come in, in Q3, and this reflects the previously mentioned increase of around 2 million barrels year- on-year in exports. This is predominantly coming from compliance sources. If you look at the chart below, we've just taken out Iranian and Russian and Venezuelan oil, and it looks very promising. If you look at the chart on the bottom right-hand side, and this is important. If you -- basically what's been missing in our market and particularly hurting Frontline has been the fact that the long-haul trade of oil has suffered. Russia has supplied Asia to a very large degree, whilst Europe has received resupply as they're missing the Russian barrels from U.S., Brazil, Guyana and West Africa. What we ideally want is Latin American and U.S. oil to go east. This is about double the voyage of this local transatlantic trades. But in order to get to that point, Atlantic Basin oil basically needs to price eastbound. It needs to be cheaper, including freight than the benchmark grade in the Middle East, which is called Dubai. What's happened over the last couple of weeks is with India entering the Middle East market to a larger degree now than what we used to do, they have pushed up prices in the Middle East to the point where now you can actually place U.S. barrels cheaper into the Asian market than taking it from the Middle East. Of course, it takes time for this to be reflected in rates. But what we have seen already is a significant increase in U.S. Gulf fixtures for September, which obviously is going to be October delivery than what we've seen previously. Let's move to Slide 11 and look at then the order books. So basically, what I described on the previous slide, it basically equates to about 6% increase in freight demand, and that's not adjusting for ton miles. So the potential change here is greater. But the fleet is not really growing at all. In 2025, it's expected to be reduced by about 0.5% if you look at the active trading fleet that is either not sanctioned or sitting still. There are so few vessels coming into this market that we're actually experiencing negative growth. So with that equation together with longer trade lanes, more compliant oil in the market and a stable fleet development is good news as we move into the fall here. We have a record amount of vessels above 20 years of age in the fleet. We have a record amount of or part of the fleet being sanctioned. And in light of that kind of setup, we continue to have a very limited order book. We also see that the activity on the yards for tankers has been fairly slow for a long period of time now, and there's only very few orders being placed. If you order a vessel today, you are 90% certain that you need to wait until 2028 to get that vessel on the water. So basically, the tanker market is sold out for 2027. There will be transactions on resales for both '26 and '27 delivery, could even be '25. But if you go to -- if you want to increase the order book from here, 2028 is the year. So to try and sum up a little bit, and I have jokingly, but hopefully, it's not a joke, call this compliant bull market question mark. Basically, trade policy is affecting crude sourcing for the key demand regions, and this has been a little bit of a step change as far as we can see it over the last couple of months. We see an increased utilization in the compliant fleet, and we see kind of a more healthy growth in both employment and freight as we are proceeding here. The effective tanker fleet growth remains muted, both due to the aging and -- but also, of course, due to the widening sanction reach. We have healthy refinery margins, and this is actually the first time in a while, and it's been steadily improving since November last year. We've had a seasonally strong summer market, which again kind of confirms this positive demand growth as we see it. OPEC cut reversals are expected to yield increased exports from the Middle East as we approach winter. And Frontline continue to retain its material upside with our modern but not the least spot exposed fleet. Thank you. And with that, we'll open up for questions and give some answers.
Operator:
[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Omar Nokta with Jefferies.
Omar Mostafa Nokta:
Lars, Inger. Thank you for the update. Lars always very good as you kind of go through all the detail and all the moving parts in the market. I did want to maybe follow up just on a couple of those discussion points. Maybe you made a point on Slide 10 talking about those West to East flows and how those have been missing from the market. But here recently, there's perhaps a jump in terms of U.S. VLCC exports going to Asia. I guess how do you think about how that starts to play out as we get closer to winter here over the next several months where you do get an incremental amount of volume into the Middle East market from OPEC. How does that all kind of justs that dynamic overall in terms of the long haul of VLCC trade?
Lars H. Barstad:
Well, of course, I should say Jefferies, but I have to actually lean on Goldman here. They and other kind of observers are modestly or even increasingly, bearish crude prices this winter, one being due to the return of the Middle East oil from OPEC. But secondly, that we are actually -- on supply side, we are about 1 million barrels per day north of the demand side. So it's a very good point. I don't want to be in the predicting or in the betting kind of part of this. But I do subscribe to the idea that we could -- it's not a floating storage contango, but we could get a contango basically with -- well, I assume most of you know what the contango means that could kind of come into the oil curve this winter unless we see something very surprising on the demand side. What normally happens then on oil trade is that utilization further increases. Basically, since the future price is higher than the present price, traders and transporters of oil have no hurry to move into port to discharge. And also, it kind of -- it gives you the ability to freight oil longer. But lastly, and the most important part, it also incentivizes people to build inventories. And that's been a big missing part as well. We do see reports of China building inventories, but the rest of OECD is kind of very, very low on the inventory side. So if that answers your question, this is a potential scenario we see play out as we come into winter.
Omar Mostafa Nokta:
That's helpful. And then maybe just a follow-up, kind of talking a bit more on the market. A big theme here over the past maybe few quarters or perhaps a couple of years is the fits and starts we've seen in the VLCC market where rates gain momentum and you think this is going to be the big shift and then they fall back and then expectations sort of get reset. Last week was a bit exciting in terms of the move in spot rates. They seem to have gapped up. And it seems maybe this week that they're holding up. What would you kind of attribute some of the -- I know it's very short-term thinking, but what would you attribute those recent gains to? Are you starting to actually see those export barrels from OPEC come to market? Or is it something else at play?
Lars H. Barstad:
I think kind of what has come to motion here or gotten into the market is this shift from -- with some Russian backing up, quite a bit of Iranian backing up and that oil being replaced from the complied sources. This has kind of almost like an exponential effect on the demand for compliant tankers. So that is kind of driving it. We have this kind of magic ceiling around $50,000 per day on VLCCs, and we struggle to push through. This has something we believe with the structure of the market, we are kind of -- we are deep in the money, long-term owners of tankers. We -- for us, there shouldn't be a ceiling at all. But if you are more on the short-term trading side, and you're taking a ship in on time charter for $40,000 per day, suddenly, you can kind of literally close the strategy with a $10,000 per day profit you do that because then you get the bonus next year and can buy yourself a new Chalet in Switzerland. And those guys have an awful lot of ships under the commercial control. So you could say that the owners have been a little bit diluted by such a presence in the spot market. What's encouraging right now is that I can promise you, ever since last Thursday, all the charters have been trying to push this market down as far as they could. And it seems like we are finding some support and only lost like $5,000 per day in earnings. So if this is a floor, just to put the VLCC there around $45,000 per day, then I'm actually quite optimistic that we'll be able to push through this kind of artificial ceiling at $50,000 and hopefully establish a new floor a little bit higher up. So the waiting that's been happening now and all the fun and games to try and push this market down has meant that charters are actually starting to get a little bit -- little time to get the vessels they need in order to lift their cargoes. And that's always a very good news to the market. And it's going to be very interesting as we come to work next week and see what -- how this develops.
Omar Mostafa Nokta:
Okay. Yes, very good. Lars, I'll see how things indeed develop here. Appreciate it.
Lars H. Barstad:
Thank you, Omar.
Operator:
[Operator Instructions] I'm showing no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn it back to Lars Barstad for closing remarks.
Lars H. Barstad:
Well, thank you very much. I hope it's good news that there were so a few questions at this point or if it's just Friday. But thank you very much for listening in and looking forward to see how this develops.
Operator:
This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.

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